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Title: PSA: Coronavirus news
Post by: Betty on March 21, 2020, 05:57:04 PM
Stay at home whenever possible, wash your hands, be careful, & use some common sense.

There's currently 10,356 infected with the virus in NY state (my state) out of only 45,437 tested. That means almost 1/4 of EVERYONE tested was infected (23%)!

If this is an accurate sample of all people in the state that means statistically, that potentially 4.5 million in the state may be infected, & 23,000-225,000 might die from it here -- if nobody else gets infected.

New York has seen its percentage of cases requiring hospitalization hover around 18 to 24 percent, while New Jersey said Wednesday that a stunning 55 percent of its cases to date have required hospitalization.

No less than 40 percent of the population will eventually be infected by COVID-19, the governor predicted (8 million). That means 40,000-400,000 people in the state may die from it.

The governor projects peak infection is still 40-plus days out. By that point, New York state could need 110,000 hospital beds, more than double its current capacity, and more than 37,000 ICU beds.

NY state is expecting the virus to peak in about 40 days (the end of April). So we can expect quarantines or self-quarantines through May. Limited & but careful socialization may be acceptable in June.

I'll be wiping my butt with paper towels, paper scraps, & leaves by June. Many of us will have starved by then as food shelves go bare often, or the stuff will cost so much that we can't afford it anymote. A 25 cent pack of ramen soup will cost $20 by then if you can find it.

Everything I need has already gone up 2-10 times in price with no end in sight. Much stuff I need is simply not available anywhere anymore, so I had to select much more expensive alternatives, or go without.

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Update:

21,689 people infected in NY state. 28% of those tested were infected. Over 17,000 died of the disease globally. Many of those who survive the infection will have permanent lung damage that may develop into COPD shortly after, or later in life.
Title: Re: PSA: Coronavirus news
Post by: Betty on March 24, 2020, 08:56:45 PM
President Trump is comparing the corona virus to the flu again, because we loose thousands to the flu in a year. The corona virus is killing thousands in a about month, not in a whole year! Unlike other countries where the infection in affected areas doubles every 6 days, it's currently doubling every THREE DAYS in the America, thanks to a president who downplayed the disease.

This is much more contagious than a flu. It has just been discovered to have survived on surfaces in an empty cruise ship for 17 DAYS! If you do survive the infection, there's a very good chance your lungs will be permanently damaged for the rest of your life, sooner or later causing COPD. COPD will ruin your life, cripple you, make your life miserable, & dramatically shorten your life expectancy.

No, Mr. President we will not sacrifice our parents, grandparents,  small children, our lungs, & future health for the economy, the billionaires, the GOP, or your political career!

Emergency impeachment now! The entire country is now in danger because our the president's stupidity, greed, & carelessness. Purge all evil politicians now! We may be crippled for life with COPD or dead by election day. And to be sure, if this disease gets worse, they will definitely cancel elections, & declare martial law ! ! ! -- Permanent dictatorship!

Be afraid, be very afraid! Save your butt now!
Title: Re: PSA: Coronavirus news
Post by: samantha on March 25, 2020, 03:17:39 PM
Hi Betty/In London today a woman of 21 years died .She did not have any other problems of illness and yet she died
Title: Re: PSA: Coronavirus news
Post by: Betty on March 27, 2020, 03:18:36 AM
The old, disabled, & very young are the most at risk of dying. But almost anybody can get very sick, get permanent lung damage & COPD, or die from it.

More than 85,000 infected, & more than 1,300 dead from the virus in the USA.

37,258 infected & 466 died from the disease in NY state.
Title: Re: PSA: Coronavirus news
Post by: Betty on March 28, 2020, 02:26:32 PM
116,057 infected in the USA, 1,937 dead. 11,931 new cases in 24 hours.

52,318 infected in NY sate, 728 dead, 6,056 new cases in 24 hours.

10,023 dead in Italy. 5,812 dead in Spain.

Please don't go out unless you absolutely have to, be careful, & be safe!
Title: Re: PSA: Coronavirus news
Post by: JamieBoyBoy on March 29, 2020, 01:16:51 AM
I'm scared, too, Betty, and I have no right to be.  I'm in a very low infection-rate area of the Canadian prairies, and will probably only feel the economic effects of this, but I fear we will hit high rates in the future. We don't live in a bubble.

HOWEVER... may I encourage you to find ways to keep positive, even if it's for brief moments. I know things are going to get worse, but find ways to foresee things will rebound, too.

I will admit I'm surprised to hear you're seeing such price-gouging; we are seeing none of that in Canada, outside very rare instances, and Trudeau has warned retailers doing so will be punished, and I thought the USA was the same. I hope that stops.

I'm situation-rich, and cash-poor; I wish I could help you but I can't this week or next. I'll be sending a (hopelessly tiny) deposit to you after that, though.

Everyone reading this who is able; it's time to understand that if you've ever thought of donating to this site, even though she's deserved your aid every time she's asked in the past, she deserves and needs it more this time. If you can give, then help a girl out.

Side note... a brief look at the law seems to point out that in New York State it's quite illegal to price-gouge (the legal definition of that is THICK) in a situation like this, but hey, I ain't a lawyer. But I'd report any stores jacking prices unreasonably.
Title: Re: PSA: Coronavirus news
Post by: Betty on March 29, 2020, 02:24:45 AM
Yes, price gouging is illegal, & there are fines, but somehow it's still happening & a lot of people are getting away with it.

On the other hand, if you're selling a $2-$3 box of ramen for $35, & you sell 1,000 of them, & they fine you $2500 for price gouging, you still made a lot of money. The fine is trivial, & probably considered just the cost of doing business.

They're probably selling & shipping under a fake or temporary store name registered under a fake name or a Russian where the law can't reach them anyway.

Then a lot are getting away with it by claiming that their supplier & shipper raised their prices. At online shopping they're charging $15-$36 for shipping on a $2 box of ramen or noodles. They say they're not price gouging, they're just charging a lot for their "special" shipping, packing, & handling.

I'm in the final, & severe stages of COPD, even a serious cold could kill me. I would have no chance against that virus, & live in NY state. My sister & I are the youngest out of our immediate family. The only close family members still alive are older than us & in frail health. Same with the few surviving friends left -- old & frail. The AIDs epidemic wiped out a significant amount of my friends. There weren't too many of us left after that. Most of us would not survive this virus.

I had a dream last week. I woke from sleeping in the dream. When I looked around (in the dream), I saw people all around me sleeping or unconscious, except for 1 woman (I don't know who she was). We go outside, there's people laying around everywhere asleep or unconscious (in my dream I thought they were sleeping). They were laying on lawns, in the street, on the sidewalls, in the grass & under trees.

We were tired, exhausted in the dream. We decided to lay down under a tree for a nap. But we couldn't sleep because the air smelled so bad... like BO, smelly feet, or something spoiled.

After a while everyone around who was sleeping got up & started walking around. But about half the people when they walked around turned almost invisible -- transparent like a ghost or phantom. End of dream. Prophecy?

I think this is gonna get real bad, & be a devastating problem for much more than a few weeks. Many of us will inevitably die rather miserably. There won't be enough hospital beds & medical resources for everybody who is sick in the future. Many will die at home or in the streets. Many who can be saved won't because of lack of (shortage) medical resources & care.

Because of the age & condition of many of my friends, family, & myself, we would not survive this disease.

Yeah. I'm scared.
Title: Re: PSA: Coronavirus news
Post by: Betty on March 30, 2020, 03:08:54 AM
Please send this video to all our governments & make them actually watch it, so we all don't get sick or die.

This is a little similar to what my math on the computer came up with.

Recovery from this virus can be a bitch too, with lung infections. It permanently damages & scars your lung tissue, so you have COPD the rest of your life -- your life is shortened with COPD, & it is not a happy life.

It happened to me from the worst flu of my life (and it almost killed me). Lung diseases & lung infections can be more damaging to your lungs than smoking.

https://youtu.be/gxAaO2rsdIs
Title: Re: PSA: Coronavirus news
Post by: JamieBoyBoy on April 01, 2020, 12:01:57 AM
Everything you say is real and true and I won't and can't try to distract you from your well-earned fear.

And I believe you are right, certainly; it is going to get worse, and you and your family's vulnerability will be risked more yet, and the present administration's multiple, criminal failings won't help.

And yet... and I can't stress this enough for those reading (and I know Betty's sites have huge traffic)… The world is not ending.

I actually, strongly believe that while the world is going to be hurt by this, it will recover, for the vast majority. And while there's a good chance government will get more dystopian, there's a chance of sanity, too.

A small bit of perspective:
 
I'm 52, raised in central Canada, and I've never... EVER experienced a world-wide crises that affected me directly. However, my grandparents got hit THREE TIMES; World War I, Spanish Flu, the 1929 stock market crash/Great Depression, and World War II. I won't talk about the wars; obviously, they were far more devastating than anything else... but the Spanish Flu was a bastard. I haven't looked at the numbers recently but it spread and killed crazy numbers.

And today, we have tech that helps immensely. Some that doesn't (social media is poison these days), but much that does. Lots about our systems are not performing well (ventilators/masks/etc. shortages) but we are mobilizing fast to come back.

Entire industries are switching gears; Labbat's in Canada has switched production to sanitizers (taste: unchanged); 2,300 small industries have been restructured to retain employees and produce needed medical material; the list goes on.

People are sick and dying, but in reality, it's overwhelmed hospitals that's the crux of the problem. And things like all of us staying home and 'flattening the curve' actually works. I feel I can trust Canadian health sources and what I'm seeing tells me it's working (except for some rampant spread parts of cities).

The USA seems to be the hot-spot right now (and it may ruin my career... 80% of our customers are in the USA), but if y'all get it under control within a few months, I truly believe the economy will begin to bounce back... for what it's worth.

Vaccine work is continuing with Canada and Sweden seeming to lead the way; clinical trials fast-tracked with several hospital tests done already. It's not 9 months away, I don't believe. I think it'll come sooner.

I've got one final proof that things will essentially be okay: I just negotiated my last 5-year term of my mortgage. God would never let me out of this 19-year albatross of debt. So, I know at the very least, the banking system will survive.

I've been rambling.  Sorry, Betty.  I mean well. I'm well stoned on 300 mg edible and fell into a word-hole. Let's get drunk and play scrabble.
Title: Re: PSA: Coronavirus news
Post by: Betty on April 01, 2020, 06:50:32 PM
We moved from the Usenet (newsgroups) to the internet in spring 1994. Opening our first forum to the pubic on the first day of spring (deliberately planned on the spring deadline/opening). A few weeks later, overwhelmed with long stories, on a small free server, I made our stories section on a separate site to spread the load & traffic out.

So Betty's on the internet in a BBS/forum form, just turned 26 years old this spring.

Because of that, most of our regular & long term users are over 40, & we also have a higher number of people over 50 than average websites. Along with physical problems that usually accompany aging, & the weaker immune system of older people, we are the most vulnerable of getting permanent, serious lung damage from the virus, or dying.

So although it is a small percentage of the average population that is getting severely ill or dying from the virus (so far), it is a significantly larger percentage of most of us here at Betty's.

On a happier note, not only did Betty's, on the internet turn 26 years old on the first day of spring. Our hit counter, counting since September 2004, just hit 55 million hits around the same time.
Title: Re: PSA: Coronavirus news
Post by: Sissy Little Girl on July 21, 2020, 09:55:49 PM
Betty, I'm scared of the COVID-19 epidemic, too.  I'm 66 and am considered vulnerable because I have diabetes and breathing issues.  I have a room mate that goes out with his friends and I have to worry about him bringing in something that I can't get rid of.  All of us that are senior citizens have to be extra vigilant in order to keep from getting this deadly virus.  Life sure changed in 2020 and I don't like it.
Title: Re: PSA: Coronavirus news
Post by: Betty on July 29, 2020, 04:30:56 PM
Gosh. Something like that, putting your life at risk, you may have legal grounds to kick him out (or have him hauled away) & find another roommate. If not, move out so he has to find another roommate.
Title: Re: PSA: Coronavirus news
Post by: Sandra B on July 30, 2020, 12:06:57 PM
And let's not forget the origins of the disease - the abuse and the commoditising of animals.
Title: Re: PSA: Coronavirus news
Post by: JamieBoyBoy on July 30, 2020, 11:32:15 PM
And let's not forget the origins of the disease - the abuse and the commoditising of animals.

Thankfully, this seems to finally be being addressed by some parts of some countries. Bush meat has been banned around Hunan province in China with more districts to come, and Vietnam (I think? Vietnam or a neighbor) has banned cat and dog trade, restricting them to being pets.

It's not enough, but at least it's a start.